Wednesday, August 10, 2011

QUESTION

This picture comes from something called the Young Feminist Network, part of the Women's Ordination Conference, a group dedicated to advancing the cause of women's ordination in the Roman Catholic Church.

I have no interest in debating the theological merits of that topic and I'd appreciate it if none of you did either.  I'd just like to know something.

What is up with leftists and giant papier-mâché puppets of doom?

You see them all the time in secular leftist demonstrations and I sort of understand using them there.  Well, no, actually, I don't.  If you want to convince me to back your cause, looking as stupid as you possibly can is no way to go about it.

But I really don't understand using them in church.  Do these people seriously believe that people like me are going to take one look at ridiculous displays like this and think, "Jeepers, are these people spiritual!!  Maybe they're right and I'm wrong."

Because that's not the message I'm picking up, yo.

30 comments:

Brian P. Craig said...

The left-wing puppet aesthetic goes back to the 1960s and Bread and Puppet Theater, which performed at all sorts of protests and featured a giant Uncle Sam puppet. Given that many of these current Catholic dissidents cut their teeth back then, it's easy for them to have borrowed the idea.

WannabeAnglican said...

I see Wallace, but where's Gromit?

Brian P. Craig said...

And as for using them in churches, I guess it's the same as breaking into a missile plant and spray-painting graffiti. The mentality is to go right to the source of what you're protesting. You're right, however, to point out that it shows a complete loss of understanding of what goes on in a church, especially at Mass.

Scott Diekmann said...

You've got to replace the Word with something - hence the puppets.

D said...

Dude, what's with Smirky McHalo on the right?

Nickie Goomba said...

I'm one who believes that one's preferences in art reflects one's personality.

diddleymaz said...

They are really creepy but the whole giant puppet thing crops up at big opening ceremonies and stuff to,The Beijing Olympics managed to avoid them I hope London does too.
Certain sort of performance art seems to use them all the time, carnivals etc.Why do they have to be so ugly and badly proportioned??

wv-snized = hidden sneezing under giant puppet of doom.

Albert Herbert Hawkins said...

Why offer a carefully constructed sermon or a thoughtful and convincing essay when you can apparently express yourself with skills acquired in infant school? Which leads me to ponder, why are we wasting money sending seminarians away to study for years on end...we could just ordain 5 year olds!

Therese Z said...

5 years olds would be TERRIFIED of something like this - it would haunt their dreams for the rest of their lives.

Call it natural taste.

Steve Perry said...

Everything they've learned they learned on Sesame Street?

Andy said...

Sorry, these are just a bit too creepy for my palate. I agree with Therese Z; these would have scared the bee-jeebers out of my sons at a tender age.

JohnH said...

Brian, thanks for the tip about the Bread and Puppet Theater. That explains a lot. Also, thanks for pointing out that Catholic dissidents are keen on this stuff. Orthodox Catholics like myself think this stuff is revolting during the liturgy (nauseating elsewhere perhaps, but revolting at Mass).

This site is a little like a car wreck. You know it will be bad, but it is hard not to look.

Sand Mama said...

To me this just seems like more of the consistently weird attempts of Catholic Liturgy Committees and a certain type of priest to appeal to 'youth'.
They (stubbornly?) never ever get it that they look foolish indeed to the young people they are trying to 'relate' to.
This started in the '70's and so many of us are now in our 40's. Attendance isn't up at these things, I wonder when they will realize it isn't working...

romishgraffiti said...

Another hat tip to Brian for the enlightenment

JC Fremont said...

Regardless of origin the intention may be to stifle dissent, as in: go along with my agenda or I'll clobber you.

Galletta said...

Can't they be used as pinatas?

Brian Delaney said...

Whenever you see those puppets, you know there is danger ahead to both faith and morals !

AC said...

It makes perfect sense, when what is important to these people is to make changes to the church to make themselves happy with pride (deadly sin), God and the church become a joke!! Bring in the puppets and the clowns!!

Anonymous said...

Pinatas----YES!


soon to be formerly Episcopalian

Anonymous said...

The "liturgical" use of puppets by the Bread and Puppets Theater, from their wikipedia page:

"In December 2001 the Theater returned to New York with The Insurrection Mass with Funeral March for a Rotten Idea: A Special Mass for the Aftermath of the Events of September 11th. It was presented at Theater for the New City, and billed as "a nonreligious service in the presence of several papier-mâché gods." The "Insurrection Masses" are a common format for the Bread & Puppet Theater, as are such "Funerals", though the "rotten" ideas change.

Jlhyacintha said...

Bread and Puppet is still active, I see adds for shows every couple of months, or they're part of some festival or another. However, I have never seen puppets as part of a Catholic liturgy in Vermont.

Thank God for good priests, good taste, and good judgement!

midwestnorwegian said...

Coming to a "church" near you soon: Mardi Gras Mummers Bands.

Anonymous said...

Leftists have never progressed past childish mentalities which is why they love this schtick.

priest's wife said...

I would show the photo to my kids- but they would get nightmares

Richmonde said...

I was going to say its 10th-hand Marxist theory about the need to be ludic and reclaim "carnival", but Sand Mama has said it for me.

Rene said...

I think it is an interesting observation that what seemed so radical in the 60s now seems so out of place and misguided...The so-called radicals haven't woken up to the fact that they are now so, so seriously out of date. Viva neo-orthodoxy!!!

Joy said...

Wow. Must be a leftist RC thing. I am an Episcopalian and most here would consider me pretty liberal but I would never, ever think these idiotic puppets are okay at anything.

Infidel de Manahatta said...

Living in Manhattan I see giant paper mache puppets from time to time. And like you I never understand HOW exactly it is supposed to make your cause look good.

Size isn't everything!

Then again maybe I have paper mache puppet envy.

Anonymous said...

They don't worry about whether children will be scared. Their children never survived the womb.

theraineyview said...

The puppets are a strong argument against female "ordination." If it would lead to more big paper puppets, the answer just has to be no.