Thursday, April 22, 2010

A MODEST PROPOSAL

If you're going to worship God in vestments this ridiculously embarrassing, why not go all the way and sell ad space on your copes and chasubles?  NASCAR drivers not only look better than you do but make money doing it.  And everybody knows that Episcopalians can really use the jack right about now.

32 comments:

Anonymous said...

Two out of the 5 are retired. Who paid for these Christmas cracker vestments?

Anonymous said...

the one on the left, I like.

Nickie Goomba said...

Visit your local Episcopal Church. Come for the Christ-less liturgy, and stay for the parade.

Anonymous said...

Who's the diva in the middle?!

Steve Martin said...

More concerned about what they wear than what they confess? (maybe)

Monika said...

re-cut Katharine's, Barbara's, Gayle's, and Chilton's vestments - they'd be perfect mother-of-the-bride dresses. And Cathy could be the chaplain for the plastic ball pit at Ikea.

Anonymous said...

OK, I'm happy to concede that most of these are pretty ghastly. (Maybe the late 60s made a big impression on them. They are the right age, after all.) But can't we laugh at the bad taste without slandering the Episcopal Church? The liturgy of the Book of Common Prayer is certainly Christ-centered -- it's hardly different in structure and (n many cases) words from the Roman Catholic liturgy -- and at least here in Minnesota I have yet to meet a priest who isn't an orthodox Christian. Maybe too liberal for some of you, but that's not the same thing as not being confessionally Christian!

+ Edwin said...

Are they signed up for the Panto season? Something about Cinderella's sisters comes to mind.

Anonymous said...

Anonynmous - wait until you sit in the pew and listen to Christ being called a myth. Then you will get it - and it's already been happening. And it's too late already.

Let me ask you this - what is the purpose of vestments and how do these fill that purpose.

These vestments add nothing to directing the attention to Christ, but on themselves. Not one of these vestments has a representation of Christ on it. Not even - Schori's on the left. If the heart were in the right place, these vestments wouldn't have been created.

Sandy G. said...

Minnesota - Don't profile me. I am a political progressive generally and yet have no respect for those who consider themselves leaders in the Episcopal Church who indulge in self-glorification. That is all this is. I cannot imagine someone engaged in a committed, deeply profound prayer life noticing that there is a disconnect between walking the walk as a Christian and parading around in these garments. Therefore, I truly question these bishops' centering themselves on Christ. And I know from personal experience two of them think they are better than those around them because they are bishops.

Too bad! 20,000 people leaving the Episcopal Church. With those kinds of numbers, they can't all be conservatives.

Richmonde said...

Couldn't somebody design these guys a uniform? Something like a scholastic gown from a new university? Creativity is not always good! (This blog should be linked to What Not to Crochet.)

Al said...

Episcopal Test Pattern

Anonymous said...

This could be a very effective ad against women's orders...

Anonymous said...

To Minn Anonymous-
I know what you mean- I enjoy some of the silly pictures, but don't dig the slamming of our Christian brothers & sisters. I typically don't read comments (although I was curious about why this one had 13 comments, so in this instance I did.) My advice is not to take internet folks too seriously- people in online forums have the opportunity to say nasty things without the fear of having to look into the face of the injured or offended person and deal with the aftermath. Also- keep in mind that if any of these people were in any way concerned about you, your church, or your relationship with God then they would be acting with love rather than mean-spirited jokes and thinly veiled jibes. Ignore them all, enjoy an innocent laugh at some truly poor fashion choices, and serve God in your congregation.
Signed,
Anonymous Lutheran

Anonymous said...

anyone know where the photo was taken? I would like to see more of the space.

bob m said...

Just a Presbyterian here, I think the strangest part of the outfits are the miters. They look like something from Dr. Who. At least the pope doesn't wear that bee hive thing any more that they all used to wear.

Fr. Yousuf said...

Strangely enough, KJS' vestments are the least objectionable there.

to Bob M-
The beehive thing, otherwise known as a tiara, was worn to and from Mass and Liturgical functions, but not during them. (Except once when John XXIII served a Byzantine Liturgy in Byzantine Vestments but with the western Pallium and Papal Mitre replacing the Byzantine Omophorion and Mitre).

To Minn Anon & the Anon Lutheran -
There are many Anglicans, even some still in TEC who understand perfectly well the comment about "Christ -less liturgy". Minn Anonymous does not even take it for granted, that presbyters of TEC are confessionally Christian, just that they seem to be in their neck of the woods. In Los Angeles there was the mixed Hindu- Episcopal Eucharist, no it wasn't "Christless", in that Christ got mention: the Hindus accepted, magnanimously, Jesus as one their pantheon, and the head of Los Angeles' TEC diocese Bruno apologized for preaching Christ to Hindus, (strikes 1 - 3, your out! for Ms. Glasspool was that she is willing to be in Bruno's diocese).

It is most certainly true that Christ commands that we be compassionate, and that call has no exceptions, even to KJS and Bruno. How ever, Bruno, as shown above, is a formal apostate. I am not obligated to view them as fellow Christians.

Fr Yousuf

Anonymous said...

Bruno also built himself a nice home on diocesan money - pool, tennis court - and had the upper floor of the guest house converted into a private chapel. All this for the sake of entertaining and 'for the next bishop' - one of the lamest excuses used by clergy more concerned with the comforts of this world. If you're part of the 'in crowd' he'll give you an Anglican rosary with real amethyst. Paid for, one assumes, with his diocesan budget. I regret that this must be posted anonymously - but it is the truth.

Minnesota Anonymous said...

I'm kinda happy to have sparked such a lively exchange. Some random responses: First, I don't assume anything about the Episcopal clergy; I spoke about Minnesota because it is what I know. Unlike some, I prefer not to generalize from ignorance. Second, what's with the idea of having images of Christ on copes as proof of Christianity? Honestly, I have been to a LOT of services in which copes were worn (Roman Catholic, Lutheran, Orthodox, as well as Episcopal) and have never seen an image of Christ. Third, these are bishops, for heaven's sake. By definition, they tend to call attention to themselves, because that is the nature of hierarchy. If you have a problem with that, your problem isn't with these copes; it's with episcopacy.

Brook Packard said...

MN - the bar seems pretty low if all you can expect from those in the episcopacy is to play 'look at me'. Maybe the problem isn't with the episcopacy, but with certain personalities who happened to have been elected bishops. There is nothing noble in how one gets to be a bishop. A bishop wins an election.

The proof is in how one lives into those circumstances. There are bishops who do their jobs - and do them well - without grandstanding. You are indeed making assumptions and trivializing the good work or many bishops. Dressing up like the women in this picture also trivializes the work of their brother and sister bishops.

Therese Z said...

Something that MN may be missing is that these vestments are all different colors. If they all matched the liturgical color of the day, like all white in Easter or all green in Ordinary time, they wouldn't give such a bad impression.

The vestment doesn't decorate the priest, it subsumes him (or her in this case) into the mystery of the sacrament. It can be beautiful, but only as making beauty surround the great gift God gave us.

This looks to my RC eyes as five people who chose what they thought of as their niftiest copes, not five bishops gathering in worship with the whole church. And that's why we can enjoy throwing comment darts.

midwestnorwegian said...

Decked-Out-Dykes

Anonymous said...

Oh good- we've lowered ourselves to derogatory language. I was hoping the Christians would show their true colors- looks like they did.

Xopher Xadin said...

Sargent Pepper Lonely Hearts Club Band rejects.

charles said...

Looks like a scene from star wars, perhaps the imperial, inter-planetary congress?

doanli aka "orange blossom" said...

Because we women don't want to be seen wearing the same dress!!!

Anonymous said...

WOW Im truely amazed...5 Episcopalians and KJS is the one NOT wearing the tacky shit.

BillyD said...

The PB and Bishop Harris look fine (except for the PB's mitre).

Anonymous said...

As to the question of where this was taken, it is Trinity Church in Boston.

Tom said...

I was unaware that orange was a liturgical color

Anonymous said...

Direct from the hit musical 'Chicago'
"If you're good to Momma, Momma's good to you..."

Anonymous said...

The Presiding Bishop looks fine, her vestments are traditional and not distracting. The rest, a bit tacky.