Wednesday, September 16, 2009

ILLUSIONS

Shows what I know. I thought the Orthodox were immune to the sorts of visual horror stories seen on this site.

Thanks to Father Joseph.

18 comments:

Anam Cara said...

Oh, no! Say it isn't so! Where did this picture come from????

Priscilla said...

I think it looks like South-Park-on-a-cope

Althea N. Agape said...

OK, I was going to ask that he stand as the backdrop to the Nativity play, but now I agree with Priscilla.

Polytropos said...

I would like to claim that this man is under the jurisdiction of Metropolitan Archbishop Dr. Chief Alexander Swift Eagle Justice, but I don't think he's got any clergy.

It looks Antiochian from the shape of the collar. If we could identify the clergyman pictured, we could ask him what that big frosted cookie is doing in the sky.

This may qualify as my personal Worst Orthodox Vestment Ever. (The previous champion is a vestment set I once saw featuring a silkscreen of the icon of the Descent into Hades — over and over and over and over and over ….)

Christopher Johnson said...

An Orthodox priest sent it to me but I don't know where it came from.

Zac said...

Are we sure this isn't simply some ecumenical get-together with Orthodox priests in attendance?

If I saw this on an Orthodox priest in person, I'd be calling the bishop. I mean, this does appear to be some sort of lame attempt at an icon or something... but it's so ugly, so abnormal, that it would cause scandal in any reasonably active Orthodox parish. And I can guarantee you he didn't get it from an Orthodox tailor.

Someone else mentioned this, but it bears repeating-- if the man is in fact an Orthodox priest-- that he's not under any of the Russian jurisdictions: ROCOR, OCA, or Moscow Patriarchate (though the traditionally vested priests in the picture appear to be).

Did Fr. Joseph Honeycutt send this to you? If so, the priest might be Antiochian. Unfortunately, that particular jurisdiction is having bigger problems than silly, irreverent vestments. (I qualify that by saying that I know many many good, pious Antiochian Orthodox priests who would willingly go to their deaths before putting an atrocity like that on, to serve the Living God).

Christopher Johnson said...

No, it was a different Father Joseph. That ecumenical idea sounds plausible although my correspondent seemed to think this man was Orthodox. I'd love to be wrong.

Polytropos said...

I asked myself the same question: the apparently laced bottom of the inner cassock makes me wonder.

If so, vestments really need to shoot to the top of the agenda for the next meeting of the Sub-Sub-Committee on Preparations for the Discussion of the Concept of Unity in Our Common Witness to Each Other.

andrew said...

This is Fr Alexis Vinogradov, a wonderful priest of the OCA Diocese of New York and New Jersey, pastor of the Wappinger Falls parish. I think that this vestment was probably produced by children in the parish church school program. If so, it is matter of aesthetics shaped by a certain pastoral something.

But I would like to draw your attention to something else, which is in a sense apropos this web-site:

http://nudistchurch.nfshost.com/

Garments of skin indeed!

Zac said...

Andrew, if you are correct then I breathe a sigh of relief. After all, it is one thing to show ones love and appreciation for the work of children and quite another to make worship "about you" in the slogan of this most distinguished blog. Such "holy folly" reminds me of St. John of Shanghai, who was known to wear a cardboard mitre that his orphans had made him. The humility and love that motivate such minor deviations from standards of ecclesiastical dignity are far removed from the pathetic hipster "look at how cool and relevant I am" sort of thing that seems to be the midwife of most of the atrocities displayed on these entries.

Untamed Shrew said...

Illusions, yes. Maybe even delusions.

-C said...

Those "certain pastoral somethings" never sit real well with me, and it seems that this one could have used a re-thinking. It represents a focus shift which is a bit of a slippery slope, I think.

Esteban VĂ¡zquez said...

Also, this service took place at New Skete.

Enough said.

ivl said...

I know where it came from 'cause I took this photo. I'd like it at least credited since it was taken from our church website!

Andrew said...

the fact that the preist whose face you can see is cleanshaven makes me wonder if this is not actually Eastern Catholic, as Orthodox priests wear beards.

ivl said...

Andrew (who commented after me), please read the comment by andrew a few lines above. He is right on all counts. The photo was taken at the beginning of Liturgy at the New Skete on August 13, 2006. The New Skete is the monastery of the Orthodox Church in America. And Orthodox priests come beardless and still holy! ;)

Here is the link to that photo album, to give you the whole context (and you can see Fr. Alexis' face, too):
http://holytrinityorthodox.org/photos/new_skete.htm

Anonymous said...

AH! New Skete! That explains a great deal. Don't get me wrong-- I love New Skete. Many things about New Skete are somewhat against the grain of mainstream Orthodoxy. (Like the icon of Pope Paul VI) Perhaps that is why I like them so much.

Nickie Goomba said...

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